Heard a rumor

Not to no one. Just random thoughts. On a broad spectrum of what the problem is.

But has locking the door and throwing away the key worked yet?

If it had you wouldn't have the problem you have with underage sellers. Kid are highly used to sell drugs. Many know this, because they will get lighter sentences. I guess what i am getting to. How do you end it. Or get control of it.
Like i said above i don't know. Do you just lock them all away. And try to find a way to help them or can you help them.
Or will locking them away, just make them worse when they return to the streets.
Something that is eye opening and Indian_Dad can add to this.
The resend rate for the DOC is about 80%, that means 80% of those getting out of prison return.
And 1 out of 136 people in the US, are currently either in jail, on parole or indicted for a crime.
Those are some staggering numbers when yhou look at it.

To me i think to get these young kids attention. You have to get those who are using them and who are teaching them.
For them i think a wake up call would be the boot camps. Being taken from your home and required to changed or face the consequences.
Take a kid out of their habitat for a period of 4 months and see if they will adjust. In time if they don't come around. I think you will begin to see those, who you will eventually have problems with. A one shot deal. Make this work or prison.

I am not condoning anything.
I just think we need to see if things are working. Or if we need to look at other options.
Just my opinion. I dont' know the answer.
But with the figures above. I think it shows the crime rate is not as low as many believe. Of course your gonna get the figures you want if you break it all down to certain crimes.
But if only 20% of inmates making parole are successful, in re-entering life and surviving. And 80% are not. Something isn't working.
People learn to live where they are and in the situations they are in. What happens when that controlled enviroment is no longer there.
I guess what i am asking, is how do you effectively make it work, to improve the numbers and reduce the crimes, and stop others from venturing there.
Other than manipulating the numbers to make it look like it is working.

If 80% are returning to prisons. Something needs to be done. Either they can't make it, when they get out, or we are not making it hard enough.
Like i said i don't the answers and yes i have seen several return to the system. It becomes the only life they know. A controlled environment. That is what is hard to figure out. Is this the only life these people know now.
And if so and their gonna keep returning, then we need to fix something.

An example. One person incarcirated for 3 yrs. makes parole. Is out on the streets for less than a year. Uses an unload gun in a robbery attempt. Comes back into the system with more time and a higher level. This person wanted back in the system and to stay for awhile. Even as hard as it is, it was better than having nothing. I think that is what i am asking. How do you fix this, when that is all some know, and some who have been down since they were 18. Or in and out.

[gcdevil22]

i agree, flippin off fans, stomping on a leg and marijuana possession cannot compare to cocaine possession with intent to sell

[starbuck]

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that is a problem with the way this board is set up. You only have a very short time to edit your post before you get a message that tells you the alloted time to edit your post has passed. Something that should be fixed in my opinion because you say something in the heat of the moment that you want to edit out because you see more clearly after some time

[imported_mega]

First off counts, I posted it as a RUMOR, not as anything close to true, not anything slanderous or defaming.

I have asked several people about what went down. Some say it happend, others say it didnt. Its almost like it either DIDNT happen or its hush hush to the point of trying to get the kid into college without anyone finding out. Im going to go out on a limb and say that it didnt happen. It supposedly went down in Wise and could very well just be some Kelly propoganda(not blaming it on JJK, but there is no love loss there with Lorenzo). There is nothing at this point that leads me to believe that this is true. If I find out anything more concrete then I'll post it.

Also counts, I posted it on this particular forum with the intent for most people not to see it.

Lastly, vt22 norton and newport news are basically the same. We have projects just like they do, we just dont have the same amount nor the monster population. We probably have as many crack dealers per capita as they do.

[imported_MoonlightGraham]

like i stated earlier, "weed and alcohol" are completely different then cocaine.

i think you have to have a harsher punishment for a drug like this. especially if he was selling it.

[Biggin]

Alcohol is 1000x more dangerous than marijuana.

Alcohol kills more people every year than all the illict drugs combined, and that includes cocaine and heroin.

[gcdevil22]

that would be a very misleading figure...kind of like saying more people have died from pneumonia than from anthrax, therefore pneumonia is more dangeruous than anthrax

alcohol is MUCH more widely used than cocaine, so of course it causes more deaths

[Biggin]

Look at the health effects of alcohol abuse and the health effects of cocaine.

What about drunk driving?

Whens the last time the news started with, "Two young children and their mother killed by a driver all coked up."?

[imported_MoonlightGraham]

i may be wrong but i still think cocaine is alot more deadly then alcohol. i know cocaine is alot worse on your heart.

in the words of Johnny Cash "so lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be."

[Biggin]

Cocaine related deaths have a lot to do with what is actually in the cocaine. Around here, when people do coke, its probably 25-35% actual cocaine, and the rest is junk people put in when they cut it.

So the people around here who "bang" (shoot) cocaine mostly die because their product is not pure, and the impurities kill them.